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Post by Dave on Apr 15, 2011 8:28:39 GMT
Power steering belt snapped on John's car - that caused his off then. How? I don't think the touring cars will have a problem with them with their suspension - plus Sheds would never have allowed it as everyone knows he works at KH and would get major stick come the KH round if it was a safety issue for the touring cars. |
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Post by awsponsor on Apr 15, 2011 8:36:33 GMT
1. As a matter of interest does anyone know if SMRC was actually consulted over the decision to put in these humps?
2. Intuition tells me that the response from both SMRC and Knockhill will be "you can always go and race somewhere else if you don't like it"..
DickW
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Post by ianbru on Apr 15, 2011 9:02:24 GMT
[/quote]I don't think the touring cars will have a problem with them with their suspension - plus Sheds would never have allowed it as everyone knows he works at KH and would get major stick come the KH round if it was a safety issue for the touring cars.[/quote]
Dave, I think you're missing the point a bit. I don't think anyone involved in the design or placement of the new kerbs would have realized the full potential for this specific kerb being as dangerous as we have now witnessed.
A lot of people including myself imagined that this kind of accident could be possible, but if we had run for a season with no accidents then we would all have forgotten our concerns. The fact that in the very first meeting our "fears" have come true should at least persuade KH that they should openly consider the concerns now being raised.
As for the kerbs being no problem for touring cars I can't see how that assumption can be made at this point. In the same set of circumstances how can anyone be sure that Shed's Honda wouldn't suffer the same fate?
Greg
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Post by emicen on Apr 15, 2011 10:16:15 GMT
TBH, Sheds' line would possibly take him through the corner entirely behind the donut section.
However, we digress, Touring Cars have their own section in the Blue book re: corner cutting and bumpythumpy so us mere mortals shouldn't concern ourselves with their antics imho.
The bottom line is, at the right hand part of the chicane you are turning right, over a crest which massively unweights the car and if squeezed the drivers side will hit a ramp. That's exactly how stuntment flip cars in movies.
At all the other corners they are entirely appropriate and from what I saw, they did their jobs. On this one particular corner, a rethink is required. t
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Post by Dave on Apr 15, 2011 17:24:46 GMT
Greg - I find that hard to believe to be honest, this issue has been a talking point of many forums and every reaction has been pretty much the same. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out. It's like putting oil on a roundabout then wondering why cars are spinning out going round it.
Touring cars are only one customer of the track, there is super bikes, bikes, time attack and various others using the track as well as SMRC. Knock hill will no doubt consider everything and all users of the track/feedback from the different users.
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Post by NS-R on Apr 15, 2011 18:05:26 GMT
Blo*dy hell - just seen the photos - I'm glad to hear you're OK John as that looks like one serious accident. I haven't seen the chicane myself but it needs to be looked into to make sure that this is an unlucky 'one-off' as we don't want to be seeing more photos like these after each meeting. Hope you manage to get back on track soon. Nick. www.nicksandersonracing.com |
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Post by Mike Hogg on Apr 15, 2011 18:19:37 GMT
From a business standpoint it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense on the surface either - other than the BTCC and certain events based around those witchcraft-fueled 2 wheel things, Khill has struggled in recent years to get many big series visiting from the South and a move like this can't help as no-one's going to bring an expensive piece of kit to the track just to have it trashed on a lump of sticky up concrete.
I know the jauntily angled glittery baseball cap brigade in their Novas are the lifeblood of the track coffers but it's always nice to see some new racing series at the track. Actually, speaking of the track day bunch, have any of them fallen foul of this yet or are they coned off? There are usually some photos of hatchbacks perched in bizarre locations after the hot hatch days so I'm interested to see what comes of them getting too close without all the racing safety gear.
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Post by norm on May 11, 2011 8:13:30 GMT
I take it at the May 1st meeting (i) the inside kerb was still there? (ii) there were no issues/incidents? Looking at the last photo here scotracing.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=scr&action=display&thread=1562 the yellow ST (second in the queue) is at quite an angle (looks more like it is exiting the old Duffus!) and I'd wondered if it had cut the exit a bit tight? |
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Post by Blair on May 11, 2011 9:25:11 GMT
Norm, the kerb has been modified at the chicane to make the first part a bit lower. It's also been painted green in parts.
Think the pic with the ST is at Clarks.
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Post by norm on May 11, 2011 12:30:02 GMT
Thanks Blair.
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Post by norm on Oct 31, 2011 13:04:50 GMT
After the Indian grand prix, it probably seems fair to say that Felipe Massa wouldn't be a fan of the Knockhill doughnuts either?!!
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