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Post by Mike Hogg on Jun 14, 2006 17:22:33 GMT
www2.barc.net/competitors/race_timetables/hq0618-01.phpAnyone going this weekend? Clios and Legends are always fun while I'm looking forward to the FRenault as it's about the only single seater series (excepting the UK FFord in September) to run at the Hill this year. Should be there on Saturday afternoon as well (despite working from 1.00am that morning!)
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Post by andrew on Jun 18, 2006 20:30:17 GMT
unfortunately im workin on sunday or id be down askin all the clio teams what i need for a drive in them ! What do you do for a living that you start at 1am !
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Post by Mike Hogg on Jun 19, 2006 2:32:14 GMT
Driver. I drive a Luton van with Fiat and Subaru car parts up to Elgin and Inverness. They order the bits down south the day before, the Scottish stuff all gets sent up to Glasgow in the early evening then a trunk driver comes across to Dundee and I usually meet him there about 3.00 or so. What can I say, it's a living. I'd be lying if I said that what had looked like possibly the best meeting of 2006 at the 'Hill wasn't actually a bit disappointing on the day. Obviously the weather was 'kin awful, but at the same time I really don't understand why the gaps between races had to sometimes be longer than the races themselves? There was no need to have loads of the races on Saturday, if they'd just run everything on the Sunday without 25 minute gaps between races then it would have been a much more interesting day. The excellent Mazda MX5s which came up last year and were brilliant and should have been up this year weren't there, despite being listed on the SMRC website which was another downer. As it was, everyone just got bored, cold and wet standing around waiting for something to happen and a lot of people left early looking pretty fed up. The Scottish Legends guys got a bit screwed over as well - being forced to start at the back meant that quick guys like Lance and Ben Mason were so far behind after the early scrums that they had no chance of mixing it with the National guys. Never been a huge fan of Legends in the wet - they always seem to really spread out quite quickly in those conditions. I don't really know the story behind the current incarnation of Formula Woman (it doesn't seem to be the Big Brotheresque freak show that came up in 2004 any more at least) but it didn't make for particularly good spectator viewing as they were running around very gingerly in the wet conditions. Obviously to be expected for novice drivers in the wet but it was a bit dull. Nice to see the FRenault and Clios up plus Renault themselves obviously put a lot of effort into the day, with their stands and the F1 car and so on, it's just a shame that the weather and other factors ruined it slightly.
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Post by Dave on Jun 19, 2006 11:24:59 GMT
Aye thought it would be pretty rubbish.
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Post by Racemania on Jun 19, 2006 14:57:28 GMT
Driver. I drive a Luton van with Fiat and Subaru car parts up to Elgin and Inverness. Surely not a White Van ! Ali
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Post by Racemania on Jun 19, 2006 15:07:02 GMT
Obviously the weather was 'kin awful, but at the same time I really don't understand why the gaps between races had to sometimes be longer than the races themselves? There was no need to have loads of the races on Saturday, if they'd just run everything on the Sunday without 25 minute gaps between races then it would have been a much more interesting day. I take it thats your way of saying SMRC run efficient and perfectly crammed Race meetings. ;D So it would be full marks to the voluntary SMRC officials and a could do better to the salaried BARC officials on the Mike Hogg Report card then? Ali
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Post by Racemania on Jun 19, 2006 15:23:15 GMT
Never been a huge fan of Legends in the wet - Me neither Mike and I have to drive in it. Thats why this year I rely on long range forecasts to decide whether its a dry Legends day or a wet Radical day ;D ;D Bye the way Mike if there hadn't been the two days then there wouldn't have been a dry Saturday and Chris Greive wouldn't have shattered the Legends Lap record to the 59.? something time he got. Ali
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Post by Mike Hogg on Jun 19, 2006 16:38:05 GMT
Obviously the weather was 'kin awful, but at the same time I really don't understand why the gaps between races had to sometimes be longer than the races themselves? There was no need to have loads of the races on Saturday, if they'd just run everything on the Sunday without 25 minute gaps between races then it would have been a much more interesting day. I take it thats your way of saying SMRC run efficient and perfectly crammed Race meetings. ;D So it would be full marks to the voluntary SMRC officials and a could do better to the salaried BARC officials on the Mike Hogg Report card then? Ali At the risk of starting a nuclear conflict (again) I refuse to comment on your speculation.
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Post by Big Bad Wedgie on Jun 19, 2006 19:21:32 GMT
I take it thats your way of saying SMRC run efficient and perfectly crammed Race meetings. ;D So it would be full marks to the voluntary SMRC officials and a could do better to the salaried BARC officials on the Mike Hogg Report card then? Ali At the risk of starting a nuclear conflict (again) I refuse to comment on your speculation. Well, to fan the flames a little, I was told that two SMMC rescue units were booked to cover this weekend. They were told mid week that only one was needed as a unit from down south was coming up. Some members of said unit were flown up and had there flights and expenses for the weekend paid
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Post by thesweetieman on Jun 19, 2006 20:00:52 GMT
Well first of all can I say that BM would still hold the lap record if the COTC keep his word about the floppy's when he was giving his chat on Saturday morning, you see the visitors took the LR so easily because they didn't complete the whole course, no floppy's at the John R Weir ment they could make up nearly a second !
Mike there was good enough reason for the delays, it is called driver safety, I wouldn't mind waiting half an hour to go out on track if that ment the Marshall's extracted a Driver from the car correctly.
Ali what web site have you found that tells you the forecast 2 weeks in advance, and whats this about not wanting to drive in the wet !!!!!!
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Post by Michael Booth on Jun 19, 2006 20:50:57 GMT
There was a good reason for the stoppage Mike!
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Post by Catriona on Jun 19, 2006 23:18:11 GMT
Mike's not referring to the stoppages when there were actually crashes - we were well aware there were a couple of bad accidents, and of course those should be dealt with properly. But every race had a massive delay before the start; it seemed like there was never less than 10-15 minutes between each race, and I really can't believe that every single race on the program had such bad accidents that it took so long to sort things out before the next one could go out. I could be wrong, but we were at McIntyres/Duffus all day and nothing was visible to us that merited taking so long between each race, and there were only two or three races where we were aware of accidents out of our sight (admittedly we were in the car out of hearing range of the commentary half the time - if we did miss a lot of bad accidents please feel free to put me right ) As for the racing, well maybe it was better elsewhere... McIntyre was boring, sadly. I wasn't feeling too well, which didn't help my opinion of the day's events, but usually the racing is good enough that I'd forget about feeling ill - not so this time unfortunately. The Legends might've been good if the Scottish runners hadn't been at the back, but they often don't work that well in the rain anyway; it got too spread out too fast, which was a shame. Anyway, I don't want to sound too critical, it wasn't a bad day's racing by any means, just not as good as I've been used to
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Post by dagman16 on Jun 20, 2006 0:53:06 GMT
Well, I was at Clarks and we had plenty of things happening plus there were other incidents, mainly between Clarks and startline, some serious as Michael's pic showed. The timetable etc was set by BARC, I believe, and am sure we had no say in it.
The rain on Sunday didn't help either... specially the heavy stuff as the FRenaults set off!
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Post by madchris on Jun 20, 2006 7:08:34 GMT
Does anyone know exactly what happend to John Jon Higgins as I could not make it to the meeting. I see him on MST Timing in Qulifying and Heat 1 Saturday then no more ?
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Post by marshalette on Jun 20, 2006 11:26:37 GMT
There was a good reason for the stoppage Mike! Yay! I made it into a pic!! Not actually doing anything at that stage, mind, just standing there looking like a drowned rat We had two pretty major accidents on the start/finish straight, neither of which I actually saw happening I was at the bottom of the steps up to the gantry (or 'grandstand' as someone called it - hardly!!) and there was too much spray for me to watch anything except cars slithering down to Duffus. The first I knew of the first crash was the sound of a tonne of gravel being deposited all over the grid - I didn't see the car (and what was left of the tyre wall) till a few moments later, by which time it had stopped side-on on the grass just after the start line. In the second incident, the car in Michael's pic skidded along upside down for a few yards after apparently colliding with another coming out of the hairpin (the other one ended up parked nicely across the pit lane entrance). Overall it was a pretty busy day for us marshals and the recovery crews (quite often not dealing with cars but trying to keep team members out of the way...), and consequently it didn't feel as if there were huge gaps between races - at one point we thought we'd be finished by 4pm but it wasn't to be Lis
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